“…The origins of the Moodies laminae and of carbonaceous material (CM) within these laminae should be separated clearly to discuss their biogenicity. The comments by Homann and Heubeck (2021) were based, at least in part, on misunderstanding on this point. For example, Homann and Heubeck (2021) used the term "carbonaceous laminae/laminations" repeatedly on their comments to impress their biogenicity on a reader.…”