Homers Ilias

Latacz, Joachim; Greub, Thierry; Greub-Fracz, Krystyna; Schmitt, Arbogast

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“…57 While the etymology of the compound is clear (from ἵππος ['horse'] 58 and χαίρω ['take pleasure in']), it is uncertain whether -χάρμης reflects χάρμη ('ardour [for battle]') 59 or χάρμα ('object of joy', 'joy'). 60 If it derives from χάρμη, then ἱππιοχάρμης would be a noun referring to one's 'ardour for battle involving horses'. 61 If, on the other hand, it derives from χάρμα, it would be an adjective describing one who 'delights in horses'.…”

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How Did Homer's Troilus Die?

Beck

2023

The Class. Q.

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This article examines ancient depictions of the death of Troilus in art and literature and challenges the widespread belief that the Iliad implies an alternative version of the myth in which Troilus dies in battle. In particular, it argues that the death-in-battle interpretation is both insufficiently supported by the internal evidence and incompatible with the external evidence. Given the evident popularity of the story of Achilles’ ambush of Troilus in the Archaic period, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the poet of the Iliad knew the story of Troilus’ death by ambush. That the poem's only reference to Troilus does not contradict this story, and possibly even alludes to it, should persuade critics of the strong likelihood that the popular story of Troilus’ ambush at the fountain was also the one in the poet's mind.

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How Did Homer's Troilus Die?

Beck

2023

The Class. Q.

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“…6 Moreover, Phoenix's recollection of the story (μέμνημαι, 527) suggests that he has direct experience of the episode, again implying its temporal proximity for the characters within the epic. 7 The Meleager story is only truly πάλαι from the perspective of Homer's external audience, 'the mortals of today' who belong to a later age. 8 In addition, the ensuing tale draws on epic motifs and tales that would have been familiar to at least some of Homer's audience.…”

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Introduction

2023

Markers of Allusion in Archaic Greek Poetry

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Zenodotus athetised the lines that mention Meleager (641-2: so Σ A Il. 2.641 Ariston.), but the alleged grounds for doing so are very weak: Brügger et al. (2010) 207. 7 Thus Scodel (2002) 71. All three other instances of μέμνημαι in Homer refer to direct, personal memory: Il. 5.818, 6.222; Od. 24.122. Contrast Moran (1975) 204 and O'Maley (2011) 4, for whom Phoenix's memory is simply of heard stories. In later tradition, Phoenix features among the hunters of the Calydonian boar (Ov. Met. 8.307) alongside Meleager (8.299). For an overview of Meleager's relative chronology, see

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Die Hüter des Hades. Zur Bedeutung und Interpretation der homerischen Kimmerier

Rücker

2017

Digital Classics Online

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Homers Ilias

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How Did Homer's Troilus Die?

How Did Homer's Troilus Die?

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Die Hüter des Hades. Zur Bedeutung und Interpretation der homerischen Kimmerier

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