“…Previous model studies using modern geography indicate the onset of NADW formation following DP opening (Mikolajewicz et al, 1993;Nong et al, 2000;Sijp et al, 2009;Sijp & England, 2004Toggweiler & Bjornsson, 2000;Yang et al, 2014). Several geographic changes might, however, be necessary to simulate the onset of NADW formation, notably the closure of the Panama Seaway and the closure of the Arctic-Atlantic gateway (Bice et al, 2000;Hutchinson et al, 2018Hutchinson et al, , 2019Roberts et al, 2009;Vahlenkamp et al, 2018;Yang et al, 2014). As discussed in details by Ladant et al (2018), there is significant variability in NADW reconstruction among model studies, and the geometry and depth of the Panama Seaway are likely instrumental in the existence of NADW in models using a modern geography (Ladant et al, 2018;Mikolajewicz et al, 1993;Sepulchre et al, 2014;Zhang et al, 2012).…”