“…Programs in which TJ is successfully manifested, such as drug courts and mental health courts, and certainly this SAC program, typically have a judge that embodies TJ, but it is unclear what would happen to that embodiment or to those programs if the judge were to leave the bench (on this point, see Perlin, 2013). In the SAC program, TJ is also clearly manifested in participants' interactions and relationships with their probation officers, which is likely important to the early success of the program as described by Frailing et al, (2018Frailing et al, ( , 2020 and indicates that TJ is now an integral part of SAC.…”