Abstract.We consider an extension of a question of Erdős on the number of k-gons in a set of n points in the plane. Relaxing the convexity restriction we obtain results on 5-gons and 5-holes (empty 5-gons). In particular, we show a direct relation between the number of non-convex 5-gons and the rectilinear crossing number, provide an improved lower bound for the number of convex 5-holes any point set must contain, and prove that the number of general 5-holes is asymptotically maximized for point sets in convex position.