A series of 1,4-benzoxazin-3-ones with a sulfonylurea group attached at either the 5 or 8 position have been synthesised and found to show moderate herbicidal activity. Similarly, a series of 1,4-benzothiazin-3-ones, including some of the related S-oxides and S-dioxides, with a sulfonylurea group linked a t the 8 position, have been prepared and been found to be herbicidal. In both series of compounds many substituent variations were made but none of the compounds showed any useful crop selectivities.