Abstract.We show that if there is a simplified (a>2, 1 )-morass with linear limits and 2 ' = N2 , then wiiax ■** (oJia>x, 3) . Thus, assuming 2 ' = N2 , this negative relation holds in V if both N2 and N3 are (successor cardinals) , since in this case, well-known arguments show there is a simplified (ca2, 1)-morass with linear limits . The contrapositive is that, assuming 2 ' = N2 , the positive relation holds only if either N2 or N3 is (inaccessible) .