“…However, the precise location will be a complex function of numerous variables such as the temperature at the lifting condensation level, updraft velocity, the shape and composition of the aerosol size spectrum, etc (cf., Chuang et al, 2000;Leaitch et al, 1996). For example, we note that Bowers et al (2000) found no evidence of a "role off" for aerosol concentrations until the concentrations (which encompassed both clean marine and continental pollution cases) exceeded 4000 cm −3 . On the other hand, Lu et al (2008), looking at the CDNC-AMNC relationship in polluted air in the Gulf of Mexico, reported a decrease in activation efficiency in the 400-800 cm −3 AMNC range, about the same as the "role-off" point in Martin et al Similarly, Leaitch et al (1986) found a "role-off" point for continental clouds of ∼700-800 cm −3 with a slope below this point quite similar to that derived from our data.…”