“…Nevertheless, it is also clear that the results of Veenendaal et al (2018) are not in agreement with several hypotheses recently presented regarding the effects of fires as influenced by time of burning and/or precipitation regime (Laris et al, 2016(Laris et al, , 2017. Perhaps more importantly, however, much of the 'well-established' evidence that Laris and Jacobs present to support their arguments (Staver et al, 2011a,b) should, in our view, be considered as little more than hypotheses arising from in silico interpretations of a remote sensing product with clear data fidelity issues: for extensive discussions of this issue see papers by Hanan et al (2013), Staver & Hansen (2015), Veenendaal et al (2015), Lloyd & Veenendaal (2016), Gerard et al (2017), Wuyts et al (2017, Gross et al (2018), Kumar et al (2019) and Adzhar et al (2021). This contrasts with the Veenendaal et al (2018) study which aimed to test the ASS theory for the forest-savanna transition using actual observational field data from all 11 quantifiable fire trials available to us.…”