We talked last time about how [your company]'s own testing programme is kind of a validation tool within compliance arrangements where most of the testing is the responsibility of suppliers. So, I was just wondering, what is the role of the testing that [your employer] does, within that wider assurance architecture? Nick: So … the very simple answer is that it's part of [our company]'s due diligence. So if we were challenged, we'd have to say that we'd done something to show that we are mindful, or aware, of issues and challenges … That's the legislation … The difficulty we have, again … the issue we have is really that our reach is basically to our stores. And that's the limitation of our reach. So we, again, are very reliant on our supplier base looking at their raw materials critically, from their supply base … we do what we can, where we can. But in reality, when we see a cottage pie, we don't necessarily know without asking the supplier where the beef came from, or where the potato came from, or the packaging even. So that's our limitations in what we can do. Okay?
| INFORMED EXPERTSThis phone interview in late 2015 was not my first encounter with Nick, a senior food safety manager for a large UK supermarket chain. Several months earlier I had met one of his colleagues at a food industry event in London while conducting fieldwork for a research project examining how public, private and third sector organisations within the UK food system anticipate and manage possible future crises. I had taken this opportunity to introduce the project, which