Objective: The in¯uence of weight excess reduction on height and height velocity of obese subjects should be evaluated on the basis of appropriate standards, since the pattern of growth of obese subjects is different from that of normal weight subjects. Design, subjects and measurements: Height, weight and triceps skinfold thickness were recorded from 17987 school subjects (9256 males and 8731 females), 3 ± 18 y of age, from three provinces of central Italy, and a growth reference curve of height was constructed. Using BMI (as computed using the tables of Rolland-Cachera et al) and triceps skinfold thickness, normal-weight subjects (NWS) and obese subjects (OS) were identi®ed and speci®c reference curves (mean AE s.d. every sixth month of age) were developed for both groups. Centiles of height were also calculated for OS. Various (2 ± 4) measurements of height in school subjects were performed and a graph of height velocity (HV) was constructed in NWS and in OS using the JPPS method. The yearly mean AE s.d. of HV was also calculated, based on square root transformed data (in order to realise a Gaussian distribution), deriving from successive measurements in total subjects, in NWS and in OS. The z-scores of height and of the square root of HV were calculated in 217 obese subjects (125 males and 92 females) before and during a weight excess reduction programme (WERP). Obese subjects in WERP who showed a reduction of z-score of BMI were considered as`responsive'; those who either maintained or showed an increase of z-score of BMI were considered as`non-responsive'. Obese subjects in WERP were followed for 1 ± 4 y, giving the following results: 0 ± 1 y, 142 responsives and 75 non-responsives; 0 ± 2 y, 76 responsives and 33 non-responsives; 0 ± 3 y, 35 responsives and 30 non-responsives; 0 ± 4 y, 24 responsives and 18 non-responsives. Results: Compared to NWS, OS showed a signi®cantly greater HV in 4 ± 9 y males and in 4 ± 8 y females, but in older children the pubertal spurt was reduced and more precocious. As a result, the height of OS, which was greater in 3 ± 13 year-old males and in 3 ± 11.5 year-old females, subsequently showed a reduction, as compared to that of NWS, in 16 ± 18 year-old males and in 13 ± 18 year-old females. In both responsive and non-responsive groups of obese subjects in WERP, the z-scores of height showed a reduction during WERP when evaluated using the reference curve of the total school population. In contrast, when their growth was evaluated according to the obese-speci®c reference curve, no signi®cant variation was observed comparing both z-scores before and during the WERP. Conclusions: More appropriate information on the growth of obese subjects may be obtained when evaluating the height and HV according to obese-speci®c reference standards from the same population of origin. Adopting this modality, no signi®cant variation of height resulted during WERP in obese children.