Summary. We present two models for turbulent flows with periodic boundary conditions and with either rotation, or a magnetic field in the magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) limit. One model, based on Lagrangian averaging, can be viewed as an invariant-preserving filter, whereas the other model, based on spectral closures, generalizes the concepts of eddy viscosity and eddy noise. These models, when used separately or in conjunction, may lead to substantial savings for modeling high Reynolds number flows when checked against high resolution direct numerical simulations (DNS), the examples given here being run on grids of up to 1536 3 points.Summary. We present two models for turbulent flows with periodic boundary conditions and with either rotation, or a magnetic field in the magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) limit. One model, based on Lagrangian averaging, can be viewed as an invariant-preserving filter, whereas the other model, based on spectral closures, generalizes the concepts of eddy viscosity and eddy noise. These models, when used separately or in conjunction, may lead to substantial savings for modeling high Reynolds number flows when checked against high resolution direct numerical simulations (DNS), the examples given here being run on grids of up to 1536 3 points.