A method for deducing the J crack driving force value versus crack extension curve, the J_ curve, during stable crack growth has recently R been reformulated by L1n, et al. This new proposed relation for J is intended to apply to rectangular bend beams with a through thickness crack subject to bending only.It is shown here that in general, the proposed, reformulated J relationship applies only to a very restricted class of test specimens -constant J specimens.Linear elastic, deeply notched and unstable, non-linear elastic bend beams are not constant J test specimens. The proposed reformulated J relationships which involve measurable bending moments, conjugate angular rotations, and crack extensions will not apply to bend beams since in these test pieces both J and the bending moment may not, in general, be held constant simultaneously while the crack extends. 3 JM--~ c c[~t JouY~ of F r a o t ? x r e 16 ( 1 9 8 0 )