Abstract. The OZI suppressed reactions Dp--,q~b and ~p-, ~rq~ are reanalyzed, evaluating the unitarity contributions from two meson intermediate states with full spin, partially correcting earlier results. An estimate for ~p -, ~rg~b without spin is also given. Together with earlier VDM results for ,~p--* d?? the conservative estimates reported here easily explain the observed rates for all the q5 meson channels considered. PACS" 13.75Cs; 12.40Vv