This article offers a contribution to systemic thinking and practice in relation to emotions. It suggests that emotions are crucial in considering the relationship between individuals and social systems, patterns and relationships, including those between therapists and clients. Seeking to establish a balance between systemic and constructionist approaches, the article summarizes Bateson's description of schismogenesis in naven. Two sequences of clinical work, which were inspired by Bateson's ethnography and which contained strong emotions, are described. A focus on emotions, both those of clients and those of therapists, is shown to provide an opportunity for encompassing and opening up issues relating to culture, race, diachrony and experience. Culture is considered in terms of both expectations and context and emotional resonance in the therapy room used as a counterpoint to narrative emphasis.