John Hardwig has championed the thesis (NE) that evidence that an expert EXP has evidence for a proposition P, constituted by EXP's testimony that P, is not evidence for P itself, where evidence for P is generally characterized as anything that counts towards establishing the truth of P. In this paper, I first show that (NE) yields tensions within Hardwig's overall view of epistemic reliance on experts and makes it imply unpalatable consequences. Then, I use Shogenji-Roche's theorem of transitivity of incremental confirmation to show that (NE) is false if a natural Bayesian formalization of the above notion of evidence is implemented. I concede that Hardwig could resist my Bayesian objection if he intended (NE) as a more precise thesis that only applies to communityfocused evidence. I argue, however, that this precisification, while diminishing the philosophical relevance of (NE), wouldn't settle the tensions internal to Hardwig's views.Hardwig (1985, 1991) maintains that our epistemic reliance on experts is typically blind, in the sense that when we acquire reasons to believe a proposition P because an expert asserts P, we typically don't know, and often couldn't possibly know, the evidence that the expert has for P.Consider for instance an expert EXP and a proposition P about facts within her expertise domain.(EXP could be an astrophysicist and P a hypothesis about black holes.) Take the proposition: (E) EXP has asserted P in the role as an expert.Also consider a layman, or an expert in an area different from EXP's, LAY. According to Hardwig, in ordinary contexts, E is for LAY evidence for the proposition: (K) EXP has evidence for P. (Cf. 1985: 137) And this is so even if the evidence that LAY would think EXP has for P were unknown or--because of LAY's lack of appropriate training and skills--inaccessible and even ungraspable to LAY. (Cf. 1985: 339 and 1991: 699). Hardwig claims that LAY's learning E can give LAY reasons for * I'm very grateful to Lorenzo Casini, Richard Dawid, Carrie Ichikawa Jenkins, Fed Luzzi, Tommaso Piazza, Tomoji Shogenji, Karim Thebault and two reviewers of this Journal for very helpful comments and criticism upon drafts of this paper.