“…In IPA this double hermeneutic or two stage interpretation process involves, first, the participants trying to make sense of their world and, second, the researcher trying to make sense of the participants trying to make sense of their world (Smith & Osborn, 2015). In the context of the authentic learning music education study, the researcher is trying to establish an understanding of the students’ experiences with music-making activities that emulate real life, and also the teachers’ experiences in implementing a change in their own pedagogy (Crawford, 2009, 2013, 2014). Reflexivity is critical in this process, which required an awareness of how complex layers of meanings and knowledge are constructed.…”