“…According to Segundo, adults, despite being adults, still have the ability to learn and accept challenges, then be responsible for the diversity of challenges (Jiménez-Cortés & Aires, 2021; Nancy Peña Cortés, 2021). Thus, the position of dialog according to Segundo has to be on the table or social field of the community, grounded as well as interpreted (Apri, 2022;Dela et al, 2022;Jiménez-Cortés & Aires, 2021;Keristina et al, 2023;Pengky et al, 2023;Samuel et al, 2023;Setiawan et al, 2022;Siburian et al, 2023;Sinta et al, 2022;Suriani & Betaubun, 2022;Trisiana et al, 2023).…”