“…A simple example, as mentioned above, would be to get English language learners interview NESs about their hobbies, about the food they love, about places they would love to visit, and so on and so forth using social media (Alberth, 2019;Alberth, Mursalim, Siam, Suardika, & Ino, 2018;Suardika et al, 2020), and present the results of the interview in the classroom. The interview can be conducted synchronously or asynchronously (Alberth, Wang, & Wang, 2019), depending on the arrangement. This communication with NESs is particularly important since research evidence suggests that more frequent communication with NSs is associated with improved language proficiency (Dewey et al, 2012), for both low proficient learners (Jauregi et al, 2012;Satar & Özdener, 2008) and high proficient learners (Cadd, 2012).…”