| BACKG ROU N DThis exploration and discussion about involving patients and the public in gerontological nursing research, in particular doctoral training programmes, was prompted by conversations at a European summer school for doctoral nursing students. As nurses from different regions of Europe, we felt our experiences of postgraduate study and nursing scholarship had much in common. However, it also varied in some respects particularly around the approach to including patients, informal carers (family or other untrained and unpaid care providers), and the public in the research process (de Wit, Cooper, & Reginster, 2019).This raised a number of questions about how and when to incorporate this approach into doctoral training programmes across Europe with its diverse culture, healthcare and higher education systems. Our response was to come together as a group of early career researchers to review national initiatives around involving patients and the public in health research. We then identified some key literature that used this approach within gerontological nursing and critically reflected on our own experiences during our doctoral studies, which involved or had the potential to involve older people.This work is discussed, and a number of recommendations are put forward that could improve nursing science and patient care.