Communicated by I. T. LeongIn time-frequency analysis, there are fundamental formulas expressing the mean and variance of the Fourier frequency of signals, s, originally defined in the Fourier frequency domain, in terms of integrals against the density js.t/j 2 in the time domain. In the literature, the existing formulas are only for smooth signals, for it is the classical derivatives of the phase and amplitude of the signals that are involved. The two representations of the covariance also rely on the classical derivatives and thus are restrictive. In this fundamental study, by introducing a new type of derivatives, called Hardy-Sobolev derivatives, we extend the formulas to signals in the Sobolev space that do not usually have classical derivatives. We also investigate the corresponding formulas for periodic (infinite discrete) and finite discrete signals.