Journal of Statistics Education. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on statistics education in the present, but let's start a few years in the past. Where were you when you were 18 years old, and what were your career plans at that point? NH: I was a high school student in Albany, NY. I' d been playing around with computers and I was also interested in mathematics and actuarial science. I didn't have specific career plans at that juncture. AR: Where did you go to college, and what did you major in? NH: I went to Harvard and I majored in psychology. In addition to the required courses for the major, I completed both of the advanced statistics courses that were required for PhD students in psychology, at a time when Tukey's Exploratory Data Analysis was just taking root. It was exciting, as people started to think differently about statistics. It was also a little surreal, since I didn't have depth in mathematics, but I learned a lot and became more interested in statistics and data analysis. Early in college I got involved with computer support at the Science Center and started to work as a consultant on the Unix machines (it was a choice between that, VMS, and PRIMOS). By dumb luck that was the right environment to pick, as Mac OS X and Linux are essentially the same interface that I'm still working on some 36 years later. After my sophomore year I took a year off from college and got a job running the computers for the Harvard Computer Science Department in what was then the Division of Applied Science. (Best job interview story: "you aren't qualified for the position but if we don't find anyone else in the next two weeks you'll get the job. ")