Winograd and Coplen question the thorium-230 distribution model proposed to explain the age bias observed with increasing depth during Termination II. We have evaluated both criticisms and find that all samples display virtually identical fabrics, argue that the modern setting is not analogous to the conditions during Termination II, and reiterate the robustness of our age models. Our conclusions remain unchanged.
In their Comments on our Report (1), Winograd (2) and Coplen (3) Th onto calcite at the cave walls thus results in increasingly erroneously old 230 Th ages with depth. Similar to the oceans, it is possible that changes with time in the total sediment flux affected the radionuclide flux (5, 9) and intensity of scavenging (9), hence providing a mechanism for the greater age biases observed during glacial terminations (1).Winograd Th concentration with depth (2), whereas Coplen questions the steepness of the 230 Th gradient (3). Winograd's qualitative arguments are based on (i) temperature surveys in DH that suggest that convection occurs in winter and stratification in summer along with "horizontal groundwater flow" (11); (ii) low vertical thermal gradients characteristic of upward flow of geothermal water within fault zones; (iii) chemical homogeneity between 5 and 37.5 m depth (12); (iv) the difference between air and water temperatures; and, finally, (v) a statement about water transit times. Several lines of reasoning argue against these points.Temperature measurements to -34 m in DH indicate that cold surface waters sink during the winter months, causing vertical convective mixing (11). This finding, however, is hardly relevant for our model because the roof collapse that opened DH to the surface occurred 60,000 years ago (12); thus, modern winter conditions in DH are not analogous to the conditions that existed during TII. DH-2, which remains relatively enclosed with only two small (several m 2 ) openings, provides the closest modern analog for TII conditions; however, detailed studies of the water column have not yet been conducted. Observations in DH during the summer, when the air temperature is closer to that of the water, are thus the closest available analog to TII conditions, and these indicate very precisely the presence of a stable, stratified water column with a temperature gradient of 0.005°C m −1 (11) (i.e., no convective mixing). Winograd et al. (10) estimated the transit time of water recharging~80 km away and discharging at DH to be less than 2000 years. Based on these numbers, the transit time between the caves (5 years) was calculated to be within 230 Th age uncertainties (1); hence, differences in age for a specific event are unlikely to be caused by leads and lags in the arrival of the water. The transit time between the two caves may, however, be variable, and had it ever exceeded 230 Th age uncertainties (1), then the d
18O time series for DH, which is downstream, should lag DH-2 [note that the flow direction is incorrect in (2)]. In fact, the data demonstrate the exact oppos...