The excited level structures of 202 Tl and 203 Pb, above the 7 + and 29/2 − isomers, respectively, have been studied. An isomer with I π = 20 + and T 1/2 = 215(10) μs has been established in 202 Tl, and the level scheme extended from I = 10 to 20 h with the placement of fifteen new transitions. In 203 Pb, the I π = 37/2 + state is established to be metastable, with T 1/2 = 2.5(3) ns. Levels in both nuclei arise from intrinsic excitations, with likely particle-hole character for the higher-lying states in 203 Pb. The 20 + isomer in 202 Tl is most likely associated with a π h −1 11/2 ⊗ ν(i −2 13/2 , f −1 5/2 ) configuration, while the 37/2 + state in 203 Pb results from the excitation of five neutrons. Calculations, using both an empirical approach and the OXBASH code, have been performed to aid in the description of the excited level structure.