-In two experiments, system differences were determined between dairy cows (18-20 kg milk·d -1 ) and suckler beef (cows with calves; 1.1-1.2 kg weight gain·d -1 ) exclusively fed on grass. This included measurements of dry matter intake (DMI) and nitrogen (N) turnover on an alpine pasture (n by group = 5; 2000 m a.s.l.; experiment I), and of DMI, N and energy turnover in a lowland cowshed equipped with respiration chambers (n by group = 6; 400 m a.s.l.; experiment II). Within experiment II a high accuracy of slow-release alkane capsules for intake estimation was confirmed for grass-only diets because the difference between known intake and the prediction made using the C 31 :C 32 alkane ratio was only 0.19 kg·d -1 (1%). Estimates were best with early-morning faeces samples. In experiment I grass DMI and N intake were equal in dairy cows and suckler beef with 16 and 0.30 kg·d -1 , respectively. System N retention was higher in dairy cows with 25.7% of N intake vs. 9.2% in suckler beef. In experiment II, DMI of individual cows was equal in both systems (16 kg·d -1 ), whereas total system DMI (cows and calves) was higher in suckler beef (20 kg·d -1 ). Nitrogen intake was higher in the suckler beef system (0.54 vs. 0.44 kg·d -1 in dairy cows). Nitrogen retention relative to intake in dairy cows and suckler beef was 21.6% and 6.1%, respectively. Also system energy retention was higher in dairy cows (23.1% of intake) than in suckler beef (9.2%). This resulted particularly from a proportionately higher energy expenditure at a similar diet digestibility. The environmentally important excretion of total N, urine N (both experiments) and methane (experiment II) was higher in suckler beef than in dairy cows. The latter resulted from the difference in fermentable fibre intake. Overall this study suggests a greater efficiency of the dairy system on high-quality grass, although the potential difference in the effort necessary to maintain the respective system was not considered.