“…22 Ideas pertinent to the indifference view have also been defended by Gorin (2014b), Mills (1995, and Baron (2014). The account is more systematically developed by Klenk, who first uses the term 'carelessness' (2021), whereas Klenk (2022aKlenk ( , 2022b introduces the more appropriate term 'indifference' to avoid the misleading impression that manipulation is, overall, lazy or not planned out. Indeed, manipulation is often carefully crafted influence in its aim to be effective, but careless or indifferent only to the aim of revealing reasons to others.…”