“…Although pupillometry recordings are increasingly used as a measure of listening effort (Winn et al, 2018;Zekveld et al, 2018), our data complement other data indicating that pupillometric measures do not always correlate with task performance measures or other measures of listening effort, such as subjective ratings or oscillatory neural activity (Hicks and Tharpe, 2002;Zekveld et al, 2010;Mackersie and Cones, 2011;Winn et al, 2015;Miles et al, 2017;Strand et al, 2018;Alhanbali et al, 2019). Part of the inconsistency may be due to the fact that the term 'listening effort' is ambiguous (Herrmann and Johnsrude, 2019) because it may refer to a mental act -associated with the recruitment of resources (Pichora-Fuller et al, 2016;Peelle, 2018) -or to a subjective experience (Johnsrude and Rodd, 2016;Lemke and Besser, 2016;Herrmann and Johnsrude, 2019).…”