Antimicrobial peptides are known to form pores in cell membranes. We study this process in model bilayers of various lipid compositions. We use two of the best-studied peptides, alamethicin and melittin, to represent peptides making two types of pores, that is, barrel-stave pores and toroidal pores. In both cases, the key control variable is the concentration of the bound peptides in the lipid bilayers (expressed in the peptide-lipid molar ratio, P/L). The method of oriented circular dichroism (OCD) was used to monitor the peptide orientation in bilayers as a function of P/L. The same samples were scanned by X-ray diffraction to measure the bilayer thickness. In all cases, the bilayer thickness decreases linearly with P/L and then levels off after P/L exceeds a lipid-dependent critical value, (P/L)*. OCD spectra showed that the helical peptides are oriented parallel to the bilayers as long as P/L < (P/L)*, but as P/L increases over (P/L)*, an increasing fraction of peptides changed orientation to become perpendicular to the bilayer. We analyzed the data by assuming an internal membrane tension associated with the membrane thinning. The free energy containing this tension term leads to a relation explaining the P/L-dependence observed in the OCD and X-ray diffraction measurements. We extracted the experimental parameters from this thermodynamic relation. We believe that they are the quantities that characterize the peptide-lipid interactions related to the mechanism of pore formation. We discuss the meaning of these parameters and compare their values for different lipids and for the two different types of pores. These experimental parameters are useful for further molecular analysis and are excellent targets for molecular dynamic simulation studies.Membrane active peptides, including antimicrobials and toxins, are known to induce transmembrane pores. The first peptide discovered to do so is alamethicin (1, 2). At first, alamethicin was thought to induce pores (which were detected by ion conduction) only by a transmembrane electric potential (see review in ref 3). However, numerous experiments (4-8) indicated that alamethicin could insert into bilayers in the absence of an external field (see review in ref 9). Although it was believed that alamethicin insertion would create pores, a direct correlation with ion conduction was difficult to establish. Later, with the combination of oriented circular dichroism (10, 11) and neutron diffraction (12, 13), we showed the direct correlation between alamethicin insertion (without voltage) and transmembrane pores. Two other extensively studied peptides, bee venom toxin melittin (14) and frog peptide magainin (15), also exhibited similar behaviors. Pores were evidently formed by both melittin (16-18) and magainin (19,20) because they caused leakage of fluorescent dyes from lipid vesicles. In the last 15 years, a great variety of antimicrobial peptides have been shown to induce transmembrane pores in bacterial cells as well as in lipid vesicles (see reviews in refs 2...