2017
DOI: 10.1103/physrevlett.118.130401
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Nonsignaling Deterministic Models for Nonlocal Correlations have to be Uncomputable

Abstract: Quantum mechanics postulates random outcomes. However, a model making the same output predictions but in a deterministic manner would be, in principle, experimentally indistinguishable from quantum theory. In this work we consider such models in the context of non-locality on a device independent scenario. That is, we study pairs of non-local boxes that produce their outputs deterministically. It is known that, for these boxes to be non-local, at least one of the boxes' output has to depend on the other party'… Show more

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“…40 We only defined 1-randomness for outcome sequences of fair coin flips, but the definition can be extended to other measures, see Downey & Hirschfeldt (2010), §6.12 and references therein. 41 In this light I draw attention to an important result of Senno (2017), Theorem 3.2.7, see also Bendersky et al (2017), which is entirely consistent with the above analysis: If the functions f1 and g are computable (within a computable time bound), then Alice and Bob can signal superluminally. In other words, where mathematically speaking averaging the hidden state over the probability measure µ ψ suffices to guarantee (surface) signal-locality even in a theory without hidden signal-locality (Valantini, 2002), if this averaging is done by sampling Λ in a long run of repeated measurements, then this sampling must at least be incomputable.…”
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confidence: 64%
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“…40 We only defined 1-randomness for outcome sequences of fair coin flips, but the definition can be extended to other measures, see Downey & Hirschfeldt (2010), §6.12 and references therein. 41 In this light I draw attention to an important result of Senno (2017), Theorem 3.2.7, see also Bendersky et al (2017), which is entirely consistent with the above analysis: If the functions f1 and g are computable (within a computable time bound), then Alice and Bob can signal superluminally. In other words, where mathematically speaking averaging the hidden state over the probability measure µ ψ suffices to guarantee (surface) signal-locality even in a theory without hidden signal-locality (Valantini, 2002), if this averaging is done by sampling Λ in a long run of repeated measurements, then this sampling must at least be incomputable.…”
Section: )mentioning
confidence: 64%
“…• Neither of these classical meanings is at all identical with the dominant usage from medieval times to the early 20th century, which was exemplified by Spinoza, who claimed that not only miracles, but also circumstances that have concurred by chance are reducible to ignorance of the true causes of phenomena, for which ultimately the will of God ('the sanctuary of ignorance') is invoked as a placeholder. 8 Thus Spinozist randomness lies in the absence of full knowledge of the entire causal chain of events.…”
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“…In seeming contradiction to the above result, there exist theories that do attribute definite values of properties to quantum systems, nevertheless reproducing the full array of quantum mechanical predictions, such as the de Broglie-Bohm theory [56,57]. However, the results of Yurtsever [14], Bendersky et al [15], and Calude and Svozil [16] already imply that any theory capable of reproducing quantum mechanics must be noncomputable.…”
Section: A the Existence Of Undecidable Measurementsmentioning
confidence: 96%
“…That is, for an ontological quantum theory, such as dBB-theory, which is both contextual and nonlocal (e.g., [ 48 ]), the adoption of an AIP—as an informal non-transfer-control theorem in Reference [ 27 ]—prohibits access to, and the instrumental control of, nonlocal information transfers for the purpose of sending superluminal (Shannon-type) signals, or messages, between sender and receiver, while—at the same time—allowing the presence of non-Shannon signals [ 27 ]. Please note that the term ‘hidden signaling’ has also been used recently, for example by Bendersky et al [ 63 ], in reference to the concept of non-Shannon signaling [ 27 ].…”
Section: Restricting Agent Access To Ontological Quantum States Anmentioning
confidence: 99%