“…In our experiments on Ti, V, Nb, and Zr carbide clusters, no larger clusters, in particular at masses that would correspond to "multicages", 60,61 with spectra similar to those in Figure 12 are observed. The only clusters with similar IR spectra are the (8,12), (8,11), and (7,12) clusters. There are indications that the observed signal at the mass of the (7,12) cluster does not result from excitation of neutral (7,12) and is instead caused by fragmentation of (8,12).…”