Orphisches bei Empedokles

Extra‐Ordinary People:MystaiandMagoi, Magicians and Orphics in the Derveni Papyrus

“…Cf. Riedweg 1995and Betegh 2004, 370-72. Janko (2001) claims, however, that "the Derveni papyrus is the work, not of a seer (as Tsantsanoglou inclines to believe), but of a sophist," and he seems to argue (in Janko 1997) that physicist and hierophant are separate categories, as if a thinker who theorized about cosmology could not also perform rituals and interpret oracles.…”

Textual Fluctuations and Cosmic Streams: Ocean and Acheloios

“…Lloyd-Jones (1985), above all 86 n.15, quoting the relevant passages signalled by A. Henrichs: Empedocles seems to offer an original elaboration of the motif: cf. Riedweg (1995), in particular 45, and the qualifications of Di Marco (1998) 47-9. than the two relevant passages in Hesiod's Theogony, where Kronos castrates his father Ouranos, and Zeus swallows his own wife Metis (Burkert (1999) 81-2). The interpretation of the text of the Orphic poem, however, is in my opinion far from certain, and I would not rule out the possibility that West's reading of the passage (West (1983) 85-6), according to which Zeus would be swallowing his predecessor, not just his phallus) may, after all, be right.…”