Two types of large grain YBCO samples doped with tungsten oxide, one with platinum and the other without, were produced using a slow cooling process. Observations of the trapped magnetic flux density showed that the flux density of the W-doped, Pt-free samples did not change with W doping levels of up to 2.1 mol%. In contrast, the (W + Pt)-doped samples resulted in a monotonic improvement in trapped magnetic flux density as a function of W doping. Microstructure studies indicate that both types of samples contain profuse sub-micrometer deposits of a W-rich compound. The Pt-free samples contain (W 0.4 Y 0.6 )BaO 3 deposits while the (W + Pt)-doped samples contain deposits of a (W 0.5 Pt 0.5 )YBa 2 O 6 compound. Both types of deposits are of essentially the same size and have comparable number density. The results are strikingly similar to an earlier experiment in which uranium doped, Pt-free, large grain YBCO also did not show any improvement in trapped magnetic flux density. The U-doped, Pt-free samples contain profuse sub-micrometer deposits of a (U 0.4 Y 0.6 )BaO 3 compound, which have been shown to be ferromagnetic. The inability of both the (W 0.4 Y 0.6 )BaO 3 and (U 0.4 Y 0.6 )BaO 3 submicrometer deposits to act as pinning centers in self-field, suggest that this behavior is systematic.