The history of sentencing guidelines has been an exclusively American story until recently. Since 2004, however, other countries have introduced guidelines for courts. This essay explores the contrasting approaches to guidance, as exemplified by the regimes in Minnesota and England and Wales. Unlike the Minnesota guidelines, the English regime adopts a quite different model, one which allows courts greater discretion at sentencing. The English guidelines are also offence-specific; each principal offence category has its own guideline. Courts in England are required to do more processing of the case than judges in Minnesota, following a step by step approach. Until systematic comparative research is available it is hard to determine which approach to structuring judicial discretion is preferable. To a large degree each jurisdiction has created the approach which best fits its sentencing environment. The Minnesota grids are more restrictive in nature, and generate high levels of judicial conformity and consistency. The English guidelines allow greater judicial discretion, possibly at the cost of some consistency. However, the English approach offers sentencers a wider range of guidance, including information on the use of different disposals, the sentencing of multiple crimes, the appropriate level of reduction to reflect a guilty plea and other issues. Neither the Minnesota Commission nor the English Council has been particularly self-critical over the years. The structure of the Minnesota main grid remains largely unchanged since 1980. As for England, although the structure of its guidelines has evolved considerably in structure, the Council has continued to ignore calls for its guidelines to play a more active role in controlling the use of custody as a sanction, and hence reduce the size of the prison population.