“…A source of water to the EEP that has an even lower ∆ 14 C value than SAMW is called shallow overturning water from the northern subpolar Pacific (J. R. T., unpublished data). This northern shallow overturning water has a very low, prebomb ∆ 14 C value, ~−87 to −101‰ during the 1940s and 1950s, as measured in shells and seawater from the California coast and Vancouver Island [ Robinson and Thompson , ; Bien et al ., ; McNeely et al ., ]. This ∆ 14 C range is lower than the value in SAMW, ~−72‰ [ Toggweiler et al ., ; Druffel , ].…”