We see a trend toward extending object-oriented languages in the direction of databases, and, at the same time, toward extending database systems with object-oriented ideas. On the surface, these two activities seem to be moving in a consistent direction. However, at a deeper level, we see difficulties that may inhibit their ending up at the same point. We feel that many of these difficufties are a result of the underlying assumptions that are inherent in the fields of programming language and database systems research. Many of these assumptions are historical and contribute to a set of cultural biases that often prevent the two communities from interacting as effectively as possible.