owned the creative copyright. This Editorial is not considering the ethics of using people with dementia in research, as that is clear in the literature. It is important to note that this was not the case in the poetry pilot project, and the researchers treated all participants with the utmost respect and adhered to all ethical and other protocols. The way my poem appeared on Twitter, is what highlighted not that researchers are not following strict research ethic protocols, but rather, people who are engaging with people with dementia, outside of formal research may not be considering them. Specifically, it will consider the creative and intellectual copyright or ownership of people with dementia in general, and whether this issue has been neglected, or even considered as a valid concern. Almost all others providing intelligence or creative to a piece of work receive full credit, and most often also are paid for their contribution. This is not happening to people with dementia, and all too often, we are still listed on documents as 'People/person with dementia', just as we are too often still listed that way on a conference or event program. It is not only offensive it is disabling and stigmatising to be nameless and undervalued, and it is my hope this article opens the door to a more morally and ethically considered approach to how people with dementia are being 'engaged' beyond formal research. People with dementia are rarely funded to be the people standing on the podiums at conferences and events presenting the work, missing out on the full acknowledgement of their sometimes vast contributions given for free or almost no payment other than being