“…This is consistent with fossil evidence (see below), which shows that for the first eight million years of the known fossil record of apes, the thorax was narrow and deep like that of monkeys. The same argument applies to the 'long' arms in gibbons and great apes; in the latter, their length in the African apes is on the same allometric gradient as that of monkeys (and humans), and while orangutan arms are slightly longer than expected for their body size, it is only the gibbons that have arm lengths outside the allometric gradient (Biegert and Maurer, 1972;Aiello, 1981;Jungers, 1984). We concluded by saying:…”