Some conceptual problems involved in the consideration of disorders of narcissism

Joffe, W. G.; Sandler, Joseph; Baker, Sheila N.; Edgcumbe, Rose; Kawenoka, Maria; Kennedy, Hanna; Neurath, Lily

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“…But this failure of Drozek's "intersubjective motivation" to meet the requirements for drive status is not a problem for his theory because he has placed Greenberg's (1991) second source of motivation-namely, "internalized relational configurations"-at the center of his proposal. A question remains, however, as to whether Drozek adds anything to earlier ideas of "internalized relational configurations" in their long psychoanalytic history: We have Klein's (1975), Fairbairn's (1941), or Kernberg's (1976) internalized object relations; Jacobson's (1964) or Joffe and Sandler's (1967) self and object representations; Stern's (1985) RIGS; M. Shane, Shane, and Gale's (1997) representations of self, other, and self-with-other; or E. Shane's (2006) "Self With Tranforming Other" and "Self With Interpersonal Sharing Other" (p. 26).…”

Section: Psychoanalytic Definitions Of Motivationmentioning

confidence: 94%

“…While Drozek insists that the valuing of subjecthood does not involve affect, we have previously noted that Joffe and Sandler (1967) suggested it is only through our affective experience (positive or negative) that we value or devalue self and others. Should we not then see affective experience as a primary motivator, with valuing as a secondary motivator at best?…”

Section: Affect As Motivationmentioning

confidence: 95%

“…But in the work of Loewald (1960Loewald ( /1980 or Sandler and Joffe (1966), healthy development also entails an unconditional valuing of one's own COMMENTARY ON PAPER BY ROBERT P. DROZEK and the other's subjecthood-a valuing that Loewald (1960Loewald ( /1980 referred to as love for the individual and for individual development and about which Joffe and Sandler (1967) have written, By "value" we do not refer specifically to moral value but the term is used rather in the sense of feeling qualities which may be positive or negative, relatively simple or extremely complicated. It is these affective values, sign-values, so to speak, which give all representations their significance.…”

Section: Valuing Subjecthoodmentioning

confidence: 97%

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The Achilles Heel of Psychoanalysis: Meditations on Motivation: Commentary on Paper by Robert P. Drozek

Teicholz¹

2010

Psychoanalytic Dialogues

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In discussing Robert P. Drozek's "Intersubjectivity Theory and the Dilemma of Intersubjective Motivation," I consider the challenges inherent to general theories of motivation in contemporary psychoanalysis, challenges that are further complicated by our multiple theories of intersubjectivity. While I agree with Drozek that individuals can be motivated by aspects of others' subjective experience I would not raise this phenomenon to a general theory of motivation. I explain why I feel that motivation is a fraught topic in contemporary psychoanalysis, and I suggest reasons that relational authors have often addressed this topic only obliquely. I also take issue with Drozek's claim that, to date, psychoanalysis has no motivational theory that addresses both the intrapsychic and the intersubjective realms. In reviewing the ideas of several authors whose theories Drozek rejects because he believes their work reduces motivation to the intrapsychic, I find that these authors have addressed the intersubjective and intrapsychic aspects of motivation far more adequately and complexly than Drozek has recognized. Thus while I admire the energy and logic-even at times the eloquence-with which Drozek presents his ideas, I question whether psychoanalysis needs a new motivational theory at this point in time.

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Section: Affect As Motivationmentioning

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Section: Valuing Subjecthoodmentioning

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The Achilles Heel of Psychoanalysis: Meditations on Motivation: Commentary on Paper by Robert P. Drozek

Teicholz¹

2010

Psychoanalytic Dialogues

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“…She had trouble accepting Tea's recovery, since the child's path of separation exacerbated (rather than decreased) the discrepancy between what Mrs M perceived about herself before and after the injury. This gap can be conceptualized as a painful discrepancy between her actual self and her ideal self (see Joffe & Sandler, 1967) that was not tolerable, resulting in her persistent denial. It took the involvement of the rest of the family (particularly Tea's grandparents) for Mrs M and Tea's therapies to continue.…”

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Neuropsychoanalysis has an influence on psychoanalytic technique but not on the psychoanalytic method

Clarici

2015

Neuropsychoanalysis

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The psychoanalytic method requires, on the analyst’s part, a core psychoanalytic stance, where the patient can be reached in a conjoint working-through process, allowing a gradual understanding of the feelings present in the consulting room. Clinical neuropsychoanalysis originated with the presumption that this sort of treatment is valuable for patients suffering from brain lesions. Arising from the practice of clinical neuropsychoanalysis, and responding to critiques of the implications of neuropsychoanalysis in general, the author proposes that neuroscience can positively impact psychoanalysis, but within limits. Specifically, neuroscience provides useful information and conceptual tools that may affect the parameters of treatment – psychoanalytic technique – but can only help indirectly to understand the inner world as the patient subjectively conceives it; in other words, it does not fundamentally impact the basic analytic method. This basic stance, kindled in the analyst by controlled identification with the patient (as exemplified by countertransference-based interpretations), is enhanced by the intrinsic capacity for empathy and introspection, on the part of the psychotherapist and progressively, it is hoped, the patient, even those with neurological impairments. Technique (whether derived from neuroscientific notions or from psychoanalytic theory) can only help to facilitate change in circumstances in which this core psychoanalytic stance is in place. A corollary to this is that, in certain circumstances, theory (be it neurological or psychoanalytic in origin) may even inhibit this crucial psychoanalytic process. This view is supported by revisiting Joseph Sandler’s ideas on the “theory of technique” in psychoanalysis and by examples taken from clinical practice with patients with brain injuries

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“…Narcissism then includes the complete self-system including all mental and motor activities relating to and meaningful to the self [12][13][14]. This system is subject to constant challenges and changes, while striving to keep in a stable, but dynamic balance.…”

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Schizoid and Narcissistic Features in Personality Structure Diagnosis

Geiser¹,

Lieberz²

1999

Psychopathology

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Objective: This study examines the relationship between schizoid and narcissistic personality features. While the schizoid personality disorder seems widely accepted as a diagnostic category, the utility of the narcissistic personality disorder construct is under discussion. We regard schizoidism as a primary, structural disturbance of interaction with the world, whereas narcissism appears as a secondary phenomenon of self-organization and self-regulation. This study focuses on the question, whether these features are correlated or interact with each other in personality structure. Method: A standardized narcissism inventory is being applied to a group of schizoid and nonschizoid patients. Results: Only 1 of 18 narcissism scales differentiates significantly between these patient groups. By cluster analysis, the group of schizoid patients is divided into two subgroups characterized by their higher or lower narcissism scores. These are contiguous to existing descriptions of an active/fighting and a passive/evading schizoid subtype. Conclusion: ‘Schizoid’ and ‘narcissistic’ personality features can be regarded as distinct, but complementary personality conditions.

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Some conceptual problems involved in the consideration of disorders of narcissism

Cited by 32 publications

References 9 publications

The Achilles Heel of Psychoanalysis: Meditations on Motivation: Commentary on Paper by Robert P. Drozek

The Achilles Heel of Psychoanalysis: Meditations on Motivation: Commentary on Paper by Robert P. Drozek

Neuropsychoanalysis has an influence on psychoanalytic technique but not on the psychoanalytic method

Schizoid and Narcissistic Features in Personality Structure Diagnosis

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