We study the low-lying excitations from the fractional quantum Hall states at filling factors 2/3 and 2/5 and argue that the charge-carrying excitations involve spin flips, and, in particular, possibly more than one. Energies obtained by exact diagonalization and transport activation gaps measured over a wide range of magnetic fields are invoked. We discuss the relevance of the noninteracting composite-fermion picture where both fractions correspond to the same filling factor 2 of the composite fermions. DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevB.80.045407 PACS number͑s͒: 73.43.Ϫf, 75.10.Lp, 73.63.Ϫb In Jain's composite-fermion ͑CF͒ picture, 1 incompressible electron states 2 of the fractional quantum Hall ͑FQH͒ effect 3 form pairs corresponding to the same magnitude of the effective magnetic field B ء acting on the CFs. For example, the distinct FQH states at Landau-level ͑LL͒ filling factors =2/ 5 and 2/3 both correspond to two effective LLs completely filled with the CFs, i.e., to the same effective filling factor ء = 2. These states are distinguished by the orientation of B ء with respect to the real magnetic field acting on the electrons. Some properties of these FQH systems are known and can be understood using the mentioned analogy, for instance the Ising-like transition between ground states ͑GS͒ of different magnetization ͑paramagnetic and ferromagnetic͒, 4,5 some other properties are known but the applicability of the composite-fermion picture is not established, like the existence of a half-polarized ground state 6 ͑whose microscopic origin is still debated͒, 7 and some are not explored yet. It was found in a previous study that the measured gaps for =2/ 5 and 2/3 showed different dependences on magnetic field which was interpreted using different g factors for CFs. 8 However, no detailed calculations were undertaken at that time to understand this observed effect. Exactdiagonalization ͑ED͒ studies could clarify the underlying physics. Can charged excitations exist at these filling factors that carry large spin? If so, how far can these excitations be understood using the CF picture? Such excitations, identified as skyrmions, 9 do exist at filling factor 1 and its CF counterpart =1/ 3 which are Heisenberg-like quantum Hall ferromagnets ͑QHF͒, 10 as shown by numerous experimental and theoretical arguments. 11 They may be viewed as an extension of the idea of FQH quasiparticles involving single spin flip. 12 Systems at filling factors 2/5 and 2/3 define a wider field for research, first because of their two possible GS ͑polarized and spin singlet͒, second because there are no analytical models for large spin quasiparticles such as skyrmions, and also because the similarity between 2/5 and 2/3 on the CF level can be tested. In this paper, we investigate the lowest excited states of these ء = 2 systems and present arguments for the spin flips being involved.We begin by a recapitulation of known properties for = 2 in Sec. I. The following section first deals with how this knowledge is transferred to the fractional ...