“…The author of Webb (2021) puts his finger on the nub of the ‘hypogenic or epigenic?’ problem when he refers to the slightly differing definitions of hypogenic speleogenesis promoted by Palmer and by Klimchouk, the former offering a geochemical definition and the latter a hydrogeological one. Palmer's definition relies on the source of aggressiveness, stating that hypogenic caves ‘owe their origin to processes below the surface’ (Palmer, 2007, p. 209) but he notes that in the transverse hypogenic cave origin concept ‘meteoric groundwater following deep paths is assumed to be sufficient’ (Palmer, 2011, p. 10).…”