An examination of manganese silicates and germanates revealed unusual structural motifs and extremely different chemistries, with identical hydrothermal reactions forming K 2 Mn 2 Si 3 O 9 versus K 11 Mn 21 Ge 32 O 86 (OH) 9 (H 2 O). The germanate is exceptional in both its c-axis length (exceeding 76 Å) and unit cell volume (nearly 18000 Å 3 ), the largest known polygermanate structure to our knowledge.