“…However, in other models, it is found that a state with tropical open-water may be stable even if the sea ice edge reaches as low as 10 • latitude (Chandler and Sohl, 2000;Baum and Crowley, 2001;Pierrehumbert et al, 2011;Abbot et al, 2011;Yang et al, 2012a,b). One of the reasons for the absence of runaway glaciation in these models may be associated with the relatively low sea ice and/or snow albedo employed, which restricts the strength of the albedo feedback Yang et al, 2012a). For instance, the sea ice albedo in EBM/ice sheet models has been set to be as low as 0.45 (Hyde et al, 2000;Peltier et al, 2004Peltier et al, , 2007Peltier, 2010, 2011), and the snow albedo in CAM3 and CCSM3 is set to 0.66-0.78 Abbot et al, 2011;Yang et al, 2012a), both of which are smaller than observations, 0.47-0.52 for bare sea ice, 0.55-0.66 for sea glacier and 0.75-0.87 for snow (Perovich, 1996;Warren et al, 2002;Warren and Brandt, 2006).…”