Recent studies of the optical depth comparing and line profiles in Galactic star-forming regions have revealed strong self-absorption in by low excitation foreground material. This implies a high column density for C$^+$, corresponding to equivalent A$_ V $ values of a few (up to about 10) mag. As the nature and origin of such a great column of cold C$^+$ foreground gas are difficult to determine, it is essential to constrain the physical conditions of this material. We conducted high-resolution observations of and lines in M17 SW and Mon R2. The transition traces warm PDR-material, while the line traces the foreground material, as manifested by the absorption dips. A comparison of both line profiles with isotopic lines confirm warm PDR-origin background emission and a significant column of cold foreground material, causing the self-absorption to be visible in the and profiles. In M17 SW, the C and O column densities are comparable for both layers. Mon R2 exhibits larger O columns compared to C indicating additional material where the carbon is neutral or in molecular form. Small-scale spatial variations in the foreground absorption profiles and the large column density (sim 1018 cm$^ $) of the foreground material suggest the emission is coming from high-density regions associated with the cloud complex -- and not a uniform diffuse foreground cloud. The analysis confirms that the previously detected intense foreground absorption is attributable to a large column of low-excitation dense atomic material, where carbon is ionized and oxygen is in a neutral atomic form.