If you are looking for comfort in those vicious times, look no further than academic journals. Those old-fashioned institutions -or should we call them by their new name… those websites take such a long view of things that you will find no trace of COVID-19 in this issue of ETMP and thank god for that if you ask me.Still, philosophy in particular has always paid a steep price for its taking of the long view: basically, nobody cares. It is therefore a delight for us to be able to present, in this issue of Ethical Theory and Moral Practice, a philosophical debate that has, at the same time, all the strengths of the rigour, precision and over-the-top clarity commonly associated with analytic philosophy while also preserving the ambition of both using and explaining recent historical cases with all their real-life complexities (rather than fanciful thought-experiments, that is).Enter so-called vice epistemology. I know, it isn't the sexiest name in the game but isn't that the point of taking the long view? Boring is good, just look at Trump. One of the most influential authors within vice epistemology is surely Quassim Cassam and our journal now publishes a book symposium on Cassam's Vices of the Mind (Cassam 2019): the symposium consists of four commentaries plus author's replies (