“…In the Widdows study, the relation for open channel flow, τ = 0.19 k t , was used to estimate the mean bed stress from the measured turbulent kinetic energy , with , , and denoting the velocity fluctuation [ Stapleton and Huntley , ]. However, as discussed in Nepf [], Ricardo et al [], and Yang et al [], this relation assumes that turbulence production is linked to bed stress, which is not true in vegetated systems, for which turbulence production is primarily associated with the vegetation. Therefore, Widdows' conclusion that the critical τ was unchanged between bare and vegetated beds [ Widdows et al , , Figure 6] was incorrect, and, in fact, their data actually show that the threshold for erosion was defined by a critical value of k t .…”