In earlier work it was shown that each nonabelian finite simple group G has a conjugacy class C such that, whenever 1 = x ∈ G, the probability is greater than 1/10 that G = x, y for a random y ∈ C. Much stronger asymptotic results were also proved. Here we show that, allowing equality, the bound 1/10 can be replaced by 13/42; and, excluding an explicitly listed set of simple groups, the bound 2/3 holds.We use these results to show that any nonabelian finite simple group G has a conjugacy class C such that, if x 1 , x 2 are nontrivial elements of G, then there exists y ∈ C such that G = x 1 , y = x 2 , y . Similarly, aside from one infinite family and a small, explicit finite set of simple groups, G has a conjugacy class C such that, if x 1 , x 2 , x 3 are nontrivial elements of G, then there exists y ∈ C such that G = x 1 , y = x 2 , y = x 3 , y . We also prove analogous but weaker results for almost simple groups.