I am heartened by the thoughtfulness, passion, and analytical insight in this collection of essays about the "indicator game" (Fochler and de Rijcke 2017). Contributors (see Bal 2017;Irwin 2017;McHardy 2017) rightly recognize the threat to scholarly diversity and heterogeneity in higher education more broadly resulting from the widespread institutionalization of metrics. Several authors helpfully highlight how existing metrics don't allow us to measure qualities (e.g. patient thinking) we believe valuable (see In my brief essay, rather than focus on very specific details of the contributions to this thematic collection, I would like to build on it. What I write comes from my perspective as a scholar of higher education (see, e.g., Kleinman 2015; Kleinman and Osley Thomas 2016, 2014), an academic administrator and, dare I say, a senior member of the STS and higher education community more broadly. The scholarly and educational world in which I came of age (or at least my perception of it) has changed, and I have changed to. When I began my graduate work in 1985, I came with a perception of higher education as a relatively autonomous space for debating new-sometimes farfetched-ideas and as a site for developing the thinking skills of young people and preparing them for lives of engaged citizenship.Things were changing in US higher education when I started my PhD, but arguably the major public research university I attended in the US was still guided by a postwar ethos. Higher education was considered a public good that should be supported by citizen paid taxes. This included the education provided within its walls and the research undertaken. While US higher education was not immune from attack (witness McCarthyism), my reading of the historical record suggests little challenge to its virtues and apparently little felt need by members of the academic community to persistently and publicly argue for higher education's values.