PACS. 67.40Db -Quantum statistical theory; ground state, elementary excitations. PACS. 61.12−q -Neutron diffraction and scattering.Abstract. -High-energy resolution inelastic neutron scattering data on excitations in superfluid and normal 4 He at SVP at wave vectors Q beyond the roton, 2.0 ≤ Q ≤ 4.0Å −1 , are presented. The narrow energy resolution of these measurements reveals that the energy of the elementary excitation comes up to twice the roton energy, 2∆, at Q = 2.8Å −1 and the energy remains constant at 2∆ between Q 3.0Å −1 and the end point of the dispersion curve at Q = 3.6Å −1 . The width of the peak is also unobservably small from Q = 2.8Å −1 out to the end point, W = 2Γ < 20 µeV.The energy and lifetime of the elementary phonon-roton excitations (EE) in superfluid 4 He are accurately known at low wave vector up to the roton wave vector, Q ∼ 1.92Å −1 at SVP [1][2][3][4][5]. However, the energy and lifetime of the EE for wave vectors beyond the roton, 2.5 < Q < 3.6Å −1 , are much less well determined. This is chiefly because the intensity in the single EE component of the observed dynamic structure factor, S(Q, ω), decreases rapidly with increasing Q beyond the roton and this peak "sits" on a sloping broad component of S(Q, ω) so that high instrument resolution is required to determine the peak position accurately. The excitations at Q values beyond the roton (BTR) are also much less well understood [6-10] and microscopic calculations of the EE energy [11][12][13] reproduce the observed EE energies less well for Q > 2.5Å −1 . In 1959, Pitaevskii proposed that the energy of the single EE, ω Q , had an upper limit. When the energy reached the energy of a pair of lower energy EE's, the single EE would decay into this pair. The single EE energy could not exceed this pair energy without decaying. The pair having the lowest energy which meets the conservation conditions for decay is two rotons. The ω Q should not exceed 2∆. In this picture, at the Q value where ω Q reaches 2∆, the single EE should also broaden. Earlier measurements [14][15][16][17] suggest that ω Q exceeds 2∆ for Q > 2.8Å −1 , particularly at higher pressure. The energies of Cowley and Woods for Q > 2.8Å −1 have been adopted as c EDP Sciences