2021
DOI: 10.1002/ecy.3490
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An assessment of statistical methods for nonindependent data in ecological meta‐analyses: Comment

Abstract: Recently, Song et al. (2020) conducted a simulation study using different methods to deal with non-independence resulting from effect sizes originating from the same paper -a common occurrence in ecological meta-analyses. The main methods that were of interest in their simulations were: 1) a standard random-effects model used in combination with a weighted average effect size for each paper (i.e., a two-step method), 2) a standard random-effects model after randomly choosing one effect size per paper, 3) a mul… Show more

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“…In such a case, averaging or sampling per species will not eliminate non-independence as effect sizes are still correlated via phylogeny (i.e. A in Equation 29; Nakagawa, Senior, et al, 2021). Furthermore, even when there is no phylogenetic signal ( 2 a = 0), or we do not have the species-level structure in a dataset, these alternative approaches could be problematic.…”
Section: Alternative Approaches: Averaging or Samplingmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…In such a case, averaging or sampling per species will not eliminate non-independence as effect sizes are still correlated via phylogeny (i.e. A in Equation 29; Nakagawa, Senior, et al, 2021). Furthermore, even when there is no phylogenetic signal ( 2 a = 0), or we do not have the species-level structure in a dataset, these alternative approaches could be problematic.…”
Section: Alternative Approaches: Averaging or Samplingmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…An approximate 95% Wald-type confidence interval for can be obtained with ̂ ± t .975,df SE[̂ ], where t .975,df denotes the 97.5th percentile of a t-distribution with df degrees of freedom. Based on Nakagawa et al (2021), we set df = N studies − 1, which we expected would bring the coverage rate of the confidence interval closer to its nominal 95% level (when compared to a confidence interval based on a standard normal distribution).…”
Section: Meta-analytic Modelsmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Luke, 2017). Following Nakagawa et al (2021), we actually based the confidence interval on a t-distribution with N studies − 1 as the degrees of freedom (as an improvement to using a confidence interval based on a standard normal distribution), although this was apparently not conservative enough, presumably due to the additional dependency among the effect sizes introduced by the phylogeny. Further work will be needed to find an even better approximation to the degrees of freedom in the present context.…”
Section: Estimating the Overall Mean And Its Uncertaintymentioning
confidence: 99%
“…For example, multiple effect sizes may be taken from a single study on traits measured on the same individuals or from many different species that share an evolutionary history (Cinar et al, 2021 preprint;Noble et al, 2017). As such, it is far more likely that comparative physiologists will need to apply a multilevel meta-analytic model to control for the various sources of non-independence (Cinar et al, 2021 preprint;Nakagawa and Santos, 2012;Nakagawa et al, 2021c;Noble et al, 2017;Song et al, 2021). Multilevel models are also extremely useful in describing the various drivers of effect size variance (a feature we describe below).…”
Section: Othermentioning
confidence: 99%
“…because traits are measured on the same sets of individuals), then we need to remove this dependency from the calculation of each v i ; we can then account for the assumed sampling covariance between effect sizes by modifying I to include off-diagonals that describe this covariance (see the Appendix and Noble et al, 2017). Alternatively, robust variance estimators can also be used to deal with effect size non-independence (Nakagawa et al, 2021c;Song et al, 2021). The fact that we can obtain an overall estimate of sampling variance (i.e.…”
Section: Othermentioning
confidence: 99%