2013
DOI: 10.1111/1467-9248.12070
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Bernard Williams and the Basic Legitimation Demand: A Defence

Abstract: In this article I discuss Bernard Williams' realist conception of legitimacy. According to his critics Williams tacitly incorporates various moral claims, endorses a philosophically suspect 'consensus' view of politics, and employs an unrealistic and moralised conception of political rule. I argue that these criticisms mischaracterise the nature of the basic legitimation demand and the judgements about the acceptability of the state at its core and conclude that political theorists who object to the direction … Show more

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“…Hence, and relating back to the previous theme of realism-as-ideological-critique, realism insists that political theorists recognise their own partisan and non-neutral status as interested agents in the real-world struggle for legitimation. (For further realist discussions of legitimacy see: Bavister-Gould 2013;Ermin and Möller 2013;Hall 2013a;Horton 2012;Larmore 2013;Mason 2010;Newey 2010;Rossi 2013;Rossi 2012;Sigwart 2013;Sleat 2011;Sleat 2010).…”
Section: Realist Themesmentioning
confidence: 99%
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“…Hence, and relating back to the previous theme of realism-as-ideological-critique, realism insists that political theorists recognise their own partisan and non-neutral status as interested agents in the real-world struggle for legitimation. (For further realist discussions of legitimacy see: Bavister-Gould 2013;Ermin and Möller 2013;Hall 2013a;Horton 2012;Larmore 2013;Mason 2010;Newey 2010;Rossi 2013;Rossi 2012;Sigwart 2013;Sleat 2011;Sleat 2010).…”
Section: Realist Themesmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Others have argued that these political values can be explicated and operationalised without the need to make any appeal to moral values or principles (Jubb and Rossi forthcoming) (this claim can be made more radical by insisting that such values exhaust normativity in politics, hence leaving no space for the moral in politics). This latter position does not require us to appeal to meta-values to know when to deploy political as opposed to moral values: politically relevant predicaments can be individuated by considering the very concept of politics, which we can individuate by contrasting it to raw domination on the one hand, and personal interactions on the other hand (Hall 2013a, but also cf. Sleat 2010).…”
Section: Realist Themesmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Raw domination of the sort endured by the Helots in Sparta just isn't politics, and this is a conceptual rather than a moral claim. (Hall, 2015;Sagar, 2014;Williams, 2005, p. 5).…”
Section: Realism and The Status Quomentioning
confidence: 99%
“…And the various exegetic extensions of it that have been recently put forward (e.g. Hall 2015, Sagar, 2014, Sleat, 2013a). 6.…”
Section: Notesmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…6 There is much debate about whether Hobbes's moral theory is reducible to self-interest, but my argument does not take a stand on this. The most important reply to the Nagel-Rawls line of argument is Lloyd's (2009) Hall (2015). 9 Even if we grant that in times of war there is no politics taking place between the warring parties or states, politics still takes place within those parties or states.…”
Section: White's De Mundo Examined; B = Behemoth; DC = De Cive (Transmentioning
confidence: 99%